Comments on: Macs Are Becoming Targets http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/ "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today." - James Dean Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:15:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: tom http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28947 tom Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:47:29 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28947 Good point, Frank. There was a clear decrease in spam coming from the USA when a single spammer received a long prison sentence. Good point, Frank. There was a clear decrease in spam coming from the USA when a single spammer received a long prison sentence.

]]> By: Frank http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28921 Frank Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:45:08 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28921 Though the computer religious wars have been around now for many decades, the more important thing to many of us is that, in the face of the criminals who are attacking each and every one of us, we should probably set those differences aside to deal with the issue of defeating our real opponents. Personally I would favor some relatively draconian measures to get rid of them. Maybe turn them over to the Saudi judicial system. Just a thought. Thanks for reminding us to be more vigilant, Don Ray. Though the computer religious wars have been around now for many decades, the more important thing to many of us is that, in the face of the criminals who are attacking each and every one of us, we should probably set those differences aside to deal with the issue of defeating our real opponents. Personally I would favor some relatively draconian measures to get rid of them. Maybe turn them over to the Saudi judicial system. Just a thought. Thanks for reminding us to be more vigilant, Don Ray.

]]> By: tom http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28919 tom Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:24:35 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28919 Hey Henry, did you write that before Gerry's last post. That was funny, because he said that he does like it. Here is a simple warning, but is the type of thing that an unsophisticated computer user might fall for. When removing an unwanted drop-down, always click on the X, because the "close" button may be fake. Hey Henry, did you write that before Gerry’s last post. That was funny, because he said that he does like it.

Here is a simple warning, but is the type of thing that an unsophisticated computer user might fall for. When removing an unwanted drop-down, always click on the X, because the “close” button may be fake.

]]> By: Henry http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28917 Henry Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:12:28 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28917 Never wrestle with a pig, Don Ray. You'll both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. :) Never wrestle with a pig, Don Ray. You’ll both get dirty and the pig enjoys it. :)

]]> By: Gerry http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28913 Gerry Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:46:37 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28913 I don't like misinformation no matter where it comes from and I am very opinionated , life without arguments is boring :-) I don’t like misinformation no matter where it comes from and I am very opinionated , life without arguments is boring :-)

]]> By: Don Ray http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28911 Don Ray Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:38:55 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28911 My, I really have touched a nerve with you. I am glad to find such a MAC advocate. I am glad that it serves your needs. I don't need to spend that much to do what I do. If you do, I can see why it is worth worth arguing about. I am through with the discussion. My, I really have touched a nerve with you. I am glad to find such a MAC advocate. I am glad that it serves your needs. I don’t need to spend that much to do what I do. If you do, I can see why it is worth worth arguing about.

I am through with the discussion.

]]> By: Gerry http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28910 Gerry Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:13:37 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28910 Oh and here is a list of Linux viruses and worms.. as you can see even if Linux has a much smaller market share (2.8%) than OSX in just a few years it racked up quite a few nasties so how does market share equals virii??? remember Linux runs on Macs as well so a small part of the Linux market share includes Apple's machines.... Linux Virii and worms: Adm Adore Cheese Devnull Kork Lapper Linux/Lion (also known as Ramen) Mighty Slapper Alaeada Binom Bliss Brundle Diesel Kagob MetaPHOR (also known as Simile) OSF.8759 RST [1] Staog Vit Winter Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf) ZipWorm Oh and here is a list of Linux viruses and worms.. as you can see even if Linux has a much smaller market share (2.8%) than OSX in just a few years it racked up quite a few nasties so how does market share equals virii??? remember Linux runs on Macs as well so a small part of the Linux market share includes Apple’s machines….
Linux Virii and worms:
Adm
Adore
Cheese
Devnull
Kork
Lapper
Linux/Lion (also known as Ramen)
Mighty
Slapper
Alaeada
Binom
Bliss
Brundle
Diesel
Kagob
MetaPHOR (also known as Simile)
OSF.8759
RST [1]
Staog
Vit
Winter
Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf)
ZipWorm

]]> By: Gerry http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28909 Gerry Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:01:12 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28909 you're wrong.. again Apple is not based on a Linux platform the platform is UNIX and it comes in different flavors GNU/Linux is one of them(based on GNU Operating system) , OSX is based on Darwin and BSD OS there are many differences between the 2 OS, though they are "similar" in many ways the Aqua interface and system configuration adds an extra layer of protection.. It is documented so I am not making this up Linux is more secure than Windows that's for sure but it is proven that the world's safest and most secure online server operating system is the Open Source family of BSD (Berkley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X is based on BSD/Darwin. In short an OSX-BSD server is harder to crack than other platforms including GNU/Linus . As far as viruses and trojan you're also wrong, prior to OSX the Mac OS had 40 Mac-specific viruses and related threats. And this is during the lowest market share ever so your argument of less market less equals less virii doesn't really make sense. It is IMPOSSIBLE as of today too get your Mac infected with a virus, first because there are no viruses and secondly because the virus CANNOT install itself like it does on Windows.. You don't just pay more for the presentation layer (I imagine you are talking about the overall design) but also for the semi proprietary hardware architecture which helps to maintain a higher reliability factor as far as implementation yes it is definitely more sophisticated than anything else out there but that is a good thing it is part of the evolution of computing . I am willing to pay a little more for a more secure, sophisticated, usable and compatible machine and even if I don't build my PC from cheap chinese parts I can still be tech savvy you’re wrong.. again Apple is not based on a Linux platform the platform is UNIX and it comes in different flavors GNU/Linux is one of them(based on GNU Operating system) ,
OSX is based on Darwin and BSD OS there are many differences between the 2 OS, though they are “similar” in many ways the Aqua interface and system configuration adds an extra layer of protection..
It is documented so I am not making this up Linux is more secure than Windows that’s for sure but it is proven that the world’s safest and most secure online server operating system is the Open Source family of BSD (Berkley Software Distribution) and the Mac OS X is based on BSD/Darwin. In short an OSX-BSD server is harder to crack than other platforms including GNU/Linus .

As far as viruses and trojan you’re also wrong, prior to OSX the Mac OS had 40 Mac-specific viruses and related threats. And this is during the lowest market share ever so your argument of less market less equals less virii doesn’t really make sense.
It is IMPOSSIBLE as of today too get your Mac infected with a virus, first because there are no viruses and secondly because the virus CANNOT install itself like it does on Windows..

You don’t just pay more for the presentation layer
(I imagine you are talking about the overall design)
but also for the semi proprietary hardware architecture which helps to maintain a higher reliability factor as far as implementation yes it is definitely more sophisticated than anything else out there but that is a good thing it is part of the evolution of computing .
I am willing to pay a little more for a more secure, sophisticated, usable and compatible machine and even if I don’t build my PC from cheap chinese parts I can still be tech savvy

]]> By: Don Ray http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28908 Don Ray Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:47:52 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28908 I think that 2 trojans in 7 years has more to do with the fact that from 2000 to 2005 the Mac had less than 3% of the PC market share. Since 2005, Apple has grown to 8.1% (3rd quarter 2007) vs 6.1% (3rd quarter 2006). That means that in the last two years, Apple has more than doubled its market share. That is the reason, I say it will be more of a target. I personally could care less. For overall value, I will stick with Linux. Apple is based on a Linux platform and therefore shares the Linux security traits. You just get to pay more to get Apple's more sophisticated implementation or presentation layer. I think that 2 trojans in 7 years has more to do with the fact that from 2000 to 2005 the Mac had less than 3% of the PC market share.

Since 2005, Apple has grown to 8.1% (3rd quarter 2007) vs 6.1% (3rd quarter 2006). That means that in the last two years, Apple has more than doubled its market share. That is the reason, I say it will be more of a target.

I personally could care less. For overall value, I will stick with Linux. Apple is based on a Linux platform and therefore shares the Linux security traits. You just get to pay more to get Apple’s more sophisticated implementation or presentation layer.

]]> By: Gerry http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28907 Gerry Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:12:05 +0000 http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/10/31/macs-are-becoming-targets/#comment-28907 as they say The proof is in the pudding Mac users are smarter also because they have made the smarter choice :-) they gave thought into what OS to use while most PC users buy based on cost and what's on sale at wal mart http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/13/1649258 as they say
The proof is in the pudding
Mac users are smarter also because they have made the smarter choice :-) they gave thought into what OS to use while most PC users buy based on cost and what’s on sale at wal mart

http://macslash.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/13/1649258

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