Tragedies On The Horizon

The Yahoo groups are starting to gather examples of real people in dire straits because of the changes in the Visa law. Here is one example I just read on one of the groups.

Just a few mins ago I received this e-mail from a friend of mine.

This guy lives in Chiriqui. He WAS NOT allowed back into Panama.
He told me that they looked at his passport at the frontier saw he
already had a few 72 hr stamps and simply told him cannot enter into
Panama. My friend asked the officer what should he do..he received no
answer they just put there hands up in the air. Any idea of what this
guy needs to do to re-enter into Panama. Does he need to go back to
the US?

He is in a big mess now..Hell all his stuff is still here in his home
in Chiriqui..he needs help but I have no idea what to tell him!

So it begins..
Any feedback appreciated.

Now if this individual is a US citizen, I think he can return to the US and then return to Panama. If he is here without many items, he will have to decide whether the travel expenses are worth the effort and hassle. If on the other hand he is a property owner and owns a house and the property, his problem is greater.

This is a time not to make assumptions, if you are leaving Panama planing on returning while using a tourist visa. Make sure you understand what you can expect when you return to the border. If you are a property owner who has been living in Panama using the 90-visa, then you had best study your alternatives quickly. I feel that reason will eventually prevail, but as anyone who has lived in a Latin American country knows, time is measured differently.

I made the decision to have a permanent visa before I ever moved to Panama. I still feel that my move was a good move and I have no regrets. If I were considering Panama today, I would still make the move. As my dad used to say, “Nothing is perfect, some things less so than others.”

7 thoughts on “Tragedies On The Horizon

  1. I agree with you, one should not plan to settle in Panama without a prioper long-term visa. If you want to exploit the tourist visa loopholes (which are apparently closing fast), you are doing so at your own risk!

  2. Don,
    I find it distressing to read something like Sylvain wrote. It is made to sound like exploitation is on most of our minds. I am sure there are many in the same boat we are, who wish residency, but are currently held back due to Govt. restrictions. The ‘snowbird’ idea has been going on for years in many countries, and although we don’t want to go that routine, I don’t find a problem with it, as long as it is not hurting the country of second residence. I am sure in most cases, that country is making money off these people.
    I hope the Govt. comes to its senses soon, and realizes the many thousands of dollars this will cost them. I would think they would be making it easier to settle there, not harder. This is just my opinion though.

  3. Hi Doug. I am certain that Sylvain did not mean to imply that all people using the tourist visa were doing so in order to avoid a permanent commitment and understand that the word “loophole” has a negative connotation. I think he just was saying that even when doing so in the past there was an implied risk.

    I am also surprised at the age change for for Private Company Pensions. Many companies have provided retirement at an age earlier then 65.

  4. And I was also not implying that there is anything wrong with exploiting the loopholes. My point is that if you are doing so, you are taking a big risk and should be prepared to live with the consequences when the loophole closes.

  5. Greg as a follow-up, I put out several feelers on the site that you posted and it appears that the site is in error and has been documented as being in error. Mark that one up as unfounded.

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