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		<title>By: carroll foundationr trust</title>
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		<dc:creator>carroll foundationr trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Breaking News:

Carroll Foundation Trust - HSBC 'Named Directors' - Organised Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case

HSBC - Kroll N Cooper - Queen's Bankers / Coutts Bank / BAE Systems TAG Aviation - Slaughter &#38; May / G James S Hall L Wylde - Salans / L Rosenblatt A Gaines M Alexander - R Bray Goodman Derrick / I Montrose HASLERS / DLA PIPER / R Lane - Smith N Pike - LG


- Primary Criminal Suspects / International Criminal Syndicate -


-- The United Kingdom's Enron Case --

The Carroll Foundation Trust Criminal Case - Britain's Longest Running Largest Organised Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case - $ One Billion Dollars ( $ 1.000.000.000 ) Embezzlement of Funds Criminal Liquidation of Assets on a World Wide basis.
GJH Carroll primary victim subject of personal protection security following violent attacks with the use of firearms other weapons.

Full and Complete Criminal Evidence in LOCKDOWN at Britain’s Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - within a major Cross-Border International Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case.



Notice: Kingston Smith / E Robinson / Trust Auditors - Manches - 'The Criminal Syndicate Solicitors' - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA

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Notice: Grant Thornton / Scott Barnes - 'The Criminal Syndicate Receivers' - Galleria - Croydon Power House / Gill Rose Fennemores Grant Thornton - Carroll / Yorkshire Property Holdings
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Notice: Edwards Duthie / GJH Carroll Solicitors - The London Residence - Eaton Square Belgravia London SW1 - Break - Ins / Theft Burglarys - Forged / Falsified Lease Profiles - LOCKDOWN -Vizards Wyeth / Boodle Hatfield / The Kent &#38; Essex Police / New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI Washington Field Office USA

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking News:</p>
<p>Carroll Foundation Trust - HSBC &#8216;Named Directors&#8217; - Organised Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case</p>
<p>HSBC - Kroll N Cooper - Queen&#8217;s Bankers / Coutts Bank / BAE Systems TAG Aviation - Slaughter &amp; May / G James S Hall L Wylde - Salans / L Rosenblatt A Gaines M Alexander - R Bray Goodman Derrick / I Montrose HASLERS / DLA PIPER / R Lane - Smith N Pike - LG</p>
<p>- Primary Criminal Suspects / International Criminal Syndicate -</p>
<p>&#8211; The United Kingdom&#8217;s Enron Case &#8211;</p>
<p>The Carroll Foundation Trust Criminal Case - Britain&#8217;s Longest Running Largest Organised Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case - $ One Billion Dollars ( $ 1.000.000.000 ) Embezzlement of Funds Criminal Liquidation of Assets on a World Wide basis.<br />
GJH Carroll primary victim subject of personal protection security following violent attacks with the use of firearms other weapons.</p>
<p>Full and Complete Criminal Evidence in LOCKDOWN at Britain’s Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - within a major Cross-Border International Criminal Conspiracy and Corruption Case.</p>
<p>Notice: Kingston Smith / E Robinson / Trust Auditors - Manches - &#8216;The Criminal Syndicate Solicitors&#8217; - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA</p>
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<p>Notice: Salans / &#8216;The Criminal Syndicate Solicitors&#8217; - Croydon Power House / Urban Finance Corp. - Embezzlement Fraud Case - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA</p>
<p>Notice: Grant Thornton / Scott Barnes - &#8216;The Criminal Syndicate Receivers&#8217; - Galleria - Croydon Power House / Gill Rose Fennemores Grant Thornton - Carroll / Yorkshire Property Holdings<br />
Embezzlement Fraud Case - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA</p>
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<p>Notice: Norton Rose / GJH Carroll Trust Solicitors - LOCKDOWN - Russian Federation - LOCKDOWN - FSB / Kremlin Moscow Russian Federation</p>
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<p>Notice: Carlton Baker Clarke - &#8216;The Criminal Syndicate Accountants&#8217;- LOCKDOWN - Russian Federation - LOCKDOWN - FSB / Kremlin Moscow Russian Federation</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Notice: Loeb &amp; Loeb / GJH Carroll Trust Solicitors / Carroll Hughes Estate Interests - USA - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA</p>
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<p>Notice: Faegre Benson / &#8216;The Criminal Syndicate Solicitors&#8217; - LOCKDOWN - MOD Farnborough - Carroll Joint Ventures Corp. / Strategic Research Development Corp. - Carroll Aircraft Corp. - Carroll Hughes Estate Interests - USA - LOCKDOWN - Scotland Yard - Sir Paul Stephenson Commissioner Metropolitan Police New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI - USA</p>
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<p>Notice: Edwards Duthie / GJH Carroll Solicitors - The London Residence - Eaton Square Belgravia London SW1 - Break - Ins / Theft Burglarys - Forged / Falsified Lease Profiles - LOCKDOWN -Vizards Wyeth / Boodle Hatfield / The Kent &amp; Essex Police / New Scotland Yard London UK - US State Department - FBI Washington Field Office USA</p>
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		<title>By: Chiriquí Chatter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HSBC Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-40492</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiriquí Chatter &#187; Blog Archive &#187; HSBC Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you don’t typically read the comments on posts, you may have missed a comment on the Chiriquí Chatter HSBC post by a watchdog site that monitors HSBC. This site apparently picked up on the HSBC vs. Peter Gordon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you don’t typically read the comments on posts, you may have missed a comment on the Chiriquí Chatter HSBC post by a watchdog site that monitors HSBC. This site apparently picked up on the HSBC vs. Peter Gordon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-21045</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 03:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sajal. If you get your free Windows license, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sajal. If you get your free Windows license, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Sajal Kayan</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-21000</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajal Kayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops.. Just read about this story a little too late...
me having no clue about the laws, but always feel that a person should have the freedom to speak whatever about a service. If someone criticizes about a service, he definately has some reason to do it... why make a big fuss about it?..
now having said that.. was wondering would my criticism of HSBC be considered as defamation?
the blog post is at http://www.sajalkayan.com/linux/stay-away-linux-users-we-dont-need-your-money-hsbc/
I have not lied in any way but somehow speculated on what HSBC would have been thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops.. Just read about this story a little too late&#8230;<br />
me having no clue about the laws, but always feel that a person should have the freedom to speak whatever about a service. If someone criticizes about a service, he definately has some reason to do it&#8230; why make a big fuss about it?..<br />
now having said that.. was wondering would my criticism of HSBC be considered as defamation?<br />
the blog post is at <a href="http://www.sajalkayan.com/linux/stay-away-linux-users-we-dont-need-your-money-hsbc/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/http://www.sajalkayan.com/linux/stay-away-linux-users-we-dont-need-your-money-hsbc/');" rel="nofollow">http://www.sajalkayan.com/linux/stay-away-linux-users-we-dont-need-your-money-hsbc/</a><br />
I have not lied in any way but somehow speculated on what HSBC would have been thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-17872</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many folks are watching this case. I know I am. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many folks are watching this case. I know I am. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Lopez</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-17871</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm watching this case with interest since I'm thinking of opening a Panamanian account; I'm concerned about the privacy implications.  

BTW of interest is apparently under Panamanian law, unlike US law, in a defamation suit it is not an absolute defense to speak the truth (see, for example, this article, commenting on Mexican law, which is the same: http://www.phillipsnizer.com/library/cases/lib_case28.cfm )

Nice site; I really enjoy being offshore as a US citizen myself, escaping taxes on the first ~$80k income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m watching this case with interest since I&#8217;m thinking of opening a Panamanian account; I&#8217;m concerned about the privacy implications.  </p>
<p>BTW of interest is apparently under Panamanian law, unlike US law, in a defamation suit it is not an absolute defense to speak the truth (see, for example, this article, commenting on Mexican law, which is the same: <a href="http://www.phillipsnizer.com/library/cases/lib_case28.cfm" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/http://www.phillipsnizer.com/library/cases/lib_case28.cfm');" rel="nofollow">http://www.phillipsnizer.com/library/cases/lib_case28.cfm</a> )</p>
<p>Nice site; I really enjoy being offshore as a US citizen myself, escaping taxes on the first ~$80k income.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Panama: HSBC Sues Customer for Yahoo Postings</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-17128</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Panama: HSBC Sues Customer for Yahoo Postings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From Chiriqui Chatter: HSBC vs. Peter Gordon  Once upon a time, a long long time ago, there used to be a contributor in many of the Panama Yahoo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From Chiriqui Chatter: HSBC vs. Peter Gordon  Once upon a time, a long long time ago, there used to be a contributor in many of the Panama Yahoo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-16951</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi T.B. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi T.B. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: T. Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-16945</link>
		<dc:creator>T. Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US HSBC, which we should remember is the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank, has enforced such oppressive contracts that one must now use binding arbitration.  If HSBC slaps the customer with a $39 late fee it would cost between $5000 and $10,000 to dispute the fee.  Obviously it will not happen.  Having said that please remember that Shea v Household (HSBC) claimed late application of payments as far back as 1994.  It still happens today.  HSBC settled Shea v Household for $11 million (USD).

From credit cards to banking to mortgages to sub-prime mortgages HSBC has been likened to Providian, where high interest, overlimit fees, and late charges finally atttracted the attention of regulators.  While perhaps guilty of the same and well deserving of the Providian comparison, HSBC decided on another path.

Sue customers, hold them to binding arbitration, and change US bankruptcy laws.  Follow up by changing US postal regulations so one cannot track statements.  Then structure HSBC USA whereby one holding company owns another which owns another.  In the end the final holding company claims state regulation and not federal regulation and stalls any investigation.

Do you trust HSBC?  At Household - HSBC Watch for years we've said  customers need to be understand the real HSBC.  Please see our article called 'HSBC Killing Fields - Selected for Financial Slaughter' (Google and it is number one) which describes HSBC customers as targets of opportunity.  Is Peter Gordon correct in his assessment?  Quite likely so based on our research, and it is my right to say so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US HSBC, which we should remember is the Hong Kong Shanghai Bank, has enforced such oppressive contracts that one must now use binding arbitration.  If HSBC slaps the customer with a $39 late fee it would cost between $5000 and $10,000 to dispute the fee.  Obviously it will not happen.  Having said that please remember that Shea v Household (HSBC) claimed late application of payments as far back as 1994.  It still happens today.  HSBC settled Shea v Household for $11 million (USD).</p>
<p>From credit cards to banking to mortgages to sub-prime mortgages HSBC has been likened to Providian, where high interest, overlimit fees, and late charges finally atttracted the attention of regulators.  While perhaps guilty of the same and well deserving of the Providian comparison, HSBC decided on another path.</p>
<p>Sue customers, hold them to binding arbitration, and change US bankruptcy laws.  Follow up by changing US postal regulations so one cannot track statements.  Then structure HSBC USA whereby one holding company owns another which owns another.  In the end the final holding company claims state regulation and not federal regulation and stalls any investigation.</p>
<p>Do you trust HSBC?  At Household - HSBC Watch for years we&#8217;ve said  customers need to be understand the real HSBC.  Please see our article called &#8216;HSBC Killing Fields - Selected for Financial Slaughter&#8217; (Google and it is number one) which describes HSBC customers as targets of opportunity.  Is Peter Gordon correct in his assessment?  Quite likely so based on our research, and it is my right to say so.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Ray</title>
		<link>http://www.chiriquichatter.net/blog/2007/03/08/hsbc-vs-peter-gordon/#comment-16905</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for dropping in and leaving a comment. I will check out the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping in and leaving a comment. I will check out the link.</p>
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